tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23987105.post2183045474236257852..comments2024-02-25T19:18:38.891+00:00Comments on Rectory Musings: The CofE is making itself look stupid...Fr. Simon Cutmorehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08371546028177475152noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23987105.post-19712051377387291552010-10-28T11:04:35.073+01:002010-10-28T11:04:35.073+01:00Simon, as you say, "If you have a church fill...Simon, as you say, "<i>If</i> you have a church filled illiterate women who are recent converts from goddess worship (or ex-temple prostitutes), this is wise advice for that church at that time."<br /><br />But that's the problem. If you did, you would forbid those women to teach <i>at all</i> - but the text does not say that.<br /><br />Hence I find the argument unpersuasive and am back where I started from.<br /><br />You probably don't want to get into a big debate on this, but I'm just observing for some of us there are unresolved issues here.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03590979027426082714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23987105.post-8040867172534313932010-10-25T17:51:33.888+01:002010-10-25T17:51:33.888+01:00Paul is concerned as always about good church orde...Paul is concerned as always about good church order.<br /><br />If you have a church filled illiterate women who are recent converts from goddess worship (or ex-temple prostitutes), this is wise advice for that church at that time.<br /><br />But if you look at the entire Bible's view of women, you see many leaders and teachers: prophets (Miriam, Deborah, Huldah, Isaiah's wife, Philipp's four daughters), military leader and judge (Deborah), disciples (Mary, Martha, Joanna, Mary Magdalene, Susanna, and "many more"), deacon (Priscilla), and church leader (Lydia).<br /><br />Then you have to deal with Acts 2:1718 which is a fulfillment of Joel's prophecy "your sons and daughters will prophecy."<br /><br />Sorry that my post left it out, but I had taken it as read, certainly within the stream of Anglicanism of which I am a part, that women in leadership within the life of the church is a given and a biblical mandate...Fr. Simon Cutmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08371546028177475152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-23987105.post-40726296532124375872010-10-24T13:04:10.270+01:002010-10-24T13:04:10.270+01:00Simon, I do just want to know how you handle this ...Simon, I do just want to know how you handle this one: "I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; she must be silent."<br /><br />That's one of my stumbling-blocks and I don't see anything in your post which addresses it, or recognizes it may remain an issue for some Christians.<br /><br />So what do you do with it? What should we do with it?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03590979027426082714noreply@blogger.com